pride project: report to the community

topic posted Wed, June 17, 2009 - 11:41 AM by  hank
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(posted this morning on the yahoo list.)

This is written because I am responsible to the Burner community for things done in their name.

Evolution and status of this idea.

Last year I volunteered at Pride and was dismayed by the litter at the festival. I recognized that part of the reason for my dismay was the LNT influence of Burning Man. My reaction last year was to grab a trash bag and pick things up when I didn’t have anything else to do. This was noticed.

I enjoyed and respected the folks I worked with at Pride and intended to volunteer in the same capacity this year. However, it seemed to me that I might be able to assemble a crew of Burners to strictly pick up litter.

There are many areas of mutual interest between both communities, and in addition to the litter issue, I thought it might be a good idea to establish a conscious link between the local Burners and the Pride folks.

It was just an idea, and I wasn’t all that motivated to implement it. However, I informally presented it to some of the Pride folks I’d worked under. There was interest in the idea.

In a meeting with some of their honchos I presented a simple (KISS principle) concept of getting a few Burner volunteers to do anti-litter stuff. These would volunteer thru the Pride volunteer structure with perhaps a badge or some other piece of regalia identifying them as Burners. This seemed entirely within my personal capabilities.

During the meeting I learned that Pride was short on volunteers, and judging that there would be no significant objection in the community, suggested that I could post a call for general volunteers on the SD burner yahoo group and on tribe. They liked that.

After the meeting I called Gadget to let him know what was going on (a courtesy) and perhaps see if there was some way to get Burner regalia for the volunteers I found for the anti-litter work. Much to my surprise, he mentioned the possibility of financial support from the LLC or BWB. I pretty much dismissed the thought at the time, except for swag stuff.

The Pride folks liked the concept I was presenting. I hadn’t known how that would go over with them, so for the first time I started doing some serious thinking along those lines. By the next day I had an amended concept that involved two person anti-litter units doing pickup and a little street theater.


This Sunday I went over to Gadgets and briefed him. I didn’t go there for money. I respect his ideas and his commitment to the Burner community and would have consulted him anyway. The only reason I hadn’t mentioned it to him before was that I considered it to be long shot.

Brady came up with a concept vastly superior to mine. In addition to individuals picking up trash, he suggested a goon squad that would go to heavily littered areas, clean them up and then plunk a trash can right there.

He also suggested that this would be a great Burners Without Borders project and that BWB might want to fund it. I felt that the LLC needed to be clearly involved. If there were a formal Burner connection with Pride, I thought it would be important that the connection be seen by them as local, rather than with SF based BWB. Brady was apparently convinced of the validity of that point.

We discussed the 120 dual trash containers Pride had for the festival, and thought that wasn’t enough. Thinking it thru, we came up with a loose idea of what would be really helpful: 500 additional trash boxes with liners, a rented gator to move the goon squad around and moving the trash we collected. Swag for the volunteers. A field shower. A few bells and whistles. Maybe $1500 or so.

It was a better idea and I agreed to contact the Pride folks to make sure it was consensual. However, I realized the vast change in the nature of what was being proposed. Instead of Hank presenting and implementing Hank’s idea, I was now acting as the representative of two different Burner organizations: BWB and the LLC.

It meant some changes in how things would happen. For one thing, as Hank I had no problem with wearing the Pride volunteer T-shirt, which has corporate logos on it. As someone representing Burners ideas and value, I had to tell them we would provide our own volunteer T-shirts.

A few years ago, Pride apparently had a problem regarding a volunteer who was also a molester. All volunteers have to provide name and SS# in order to be accepted. As a simple Pride volunteer, I was quite willing to do this. As a representative and negotiator for Burners, I looked at this issue and said to Pride: “We police our own.”

After some thought, I realized the way to make this possible was if, instead of being normal volunteers, Burners became an exhibitor at Pride. We would exhibit ourselves by doing certain specific anti-litter things, and coordinate with their efforts.
A theme camp, in a way.

The Pride folks agreed to rent us a booth for a token amount. Initially, it was 79 cents but I talked them down to 59. (They will also provide food support, drinks, etc.)



Pride happen 7/18 and 19. My decision to implement the KISS concept was made at the meeting with the Pride folks on 6/12. The talk with Brady was on the 14th.
Currently, this idea is being discussed by members of the LLC board, various folks in the Burner community and Carmen at BWB has been contacted.

There is not a lot of time for either the simple concept or the much better one to be implemented. I need to make a decision about when I commit my efforts to either idea. If I can’t get informal but clear agreement of support from the LLC and BWB (and trust them to follow thru) I will choose the KISS idea. I don’t know if they can move fast enough, or let go of formal procedures fast enough to make it work.

I’m trying to arrange for an informal majority of the LLC board to agree to support the idea. Operating this way is not how I like to do things. I believe in total transparency and maximum input from the community. What I am doing is communicating with a small group of shakers and movers in the Burner community for the sake of quick decision making.

If I had known there was so much support for getting involved with Pride, I’d have put this out for the community to discuss months ago.

However, I am pragmatic, and political philosophy is not really what I want to think about now. I want to think about how to make something good happen. I want it to be beautiful. And if I can bring in some Divine Absurdity, all the better.

Here is the story. Do with it what you will.

And if you want to work hard and laugh and make an indelible impression on the Pride folks, get hold of me personally. You can be a Special Litter OPerative - a SLOP.

Hank (AKA Tom Pain-in-the-Ass)

Assistant Political Commissar

knackman@yahoo.com.


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hank
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  • Re: pride project: report to the community

    Thu, June 18, 2009 - 8:42 AM
    Yoiu should add a clown crew that goes to litter and makes a big fuss so everyone see that it's absurd that people leave their trash on the ground and it's funny that clowns are telling everyone in a silent commotion. I might be driving North that weekend, but if not i could volunteer.
    • pride project: Because i have PRIDE

      Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:13 AM

      At present, the zero budget base idea is 2 person anti-litter units that also do a bit of street theater. 12 full day slots (or 24 half day slots per day) each day for 2 days.

      At intervals, they will stop picking up litter and one will yell to the other "Why are you picking up other peoples' trash?" The other answers "Because I have Pride."

      This could be done with a musical introduction to get bystanders attention (a live bagpiper or Wagner on a boombox.)

      If we get a budget, this will still be incorporated somehow.

      Certainly clowning is worth doing as an intro to the meme line (Because I have pride.) I also considered a bit of ballet.
      • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

        Thu, June 18, 2009 - 11:52 AM
        I'm having trouble with the idea of volunteering to pick up after gay pride. Granted, Leave no trace is a BM principle (and Sierra Club, etc.) but why again is it synergistic that I should go pick up after tens of thousands of strangers who can't wrap their minds around the principle or even get enough volunteers from their own community?

        I walked in the first couple of those parades to support my friends but it's 30 years later and I figure thay can haul their own refuse. Is that wrong?

        Sas
        especially after listening to that noted bitch Fred Sainz (SIC?) crowing over the no smoking at the beach ordinance
        • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

          Thu, June 18, 2009 - 1:04 PM
          i fully agree that it is not our responsibility. it shouldn't need to be done. it's not my problem

          but there it is - a litter problem (almost certainly).

          i deal with the consequences of others' carelessness, error or irresponsibility every day. this is only a minor example.

          i'm gonna do something, even if it's relatively small - if nothing else as an example to others.

          and i am friendly to Pride and any affirmation of dignity and diversity.

          please note that i don't say you SHOULD help with this. if you want to, you are welcome.
          • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

            Thu, June 18, 2009 - 1:31 PM
            I fall on Sas' side as far as letting them pick up their own garbage. I'm not sure how becoming the litter patrol is utilizing the skills we have as a community. Perhaps helping the organizers with a LNT event or providing education to attendants about Burning Man is relevant. However, I do like the idea of having a booth and being present. Blank Page also mentioned on SDBM about being a part of other festivals, which I agree with.

            As a member of the LGBT community, I'd hate to be the one to inform everyone that they are just as boring as everyone else. The myth of our fabulousness is just a clever marketing gimmick that we use to make people feel that they should have one of us as their friends. As with the general population, one fabulous person goes a long way towards making up for the bored, lazy, disinterested folks whose only goal is to become another part of the monoculture.

            In other words, I think our presence would be useful. The community could use the education. I think there's a lot to be said for spreading our wings and sharing our ethics, but I'm don't think picking up trash is the best use of our abilities. As the old native American saying goes, "Pick up someone's trash and the street is clean for a day, teach someone not to litter and the street is clean forever."

            And by the way, the reason there is trash everywhere is because they don't seem to pick up the trash barrels often enough. What happens is that the barrels fill up and people keep putting more on top, then it falls to the ground. If they had a better trash plan to begin with, most of these issues wouldn't exist.

            And one more thing! If we were to be LNT educators, I would want to make sure that it was part of the promotion for the event before the event! There's a lot to be said for guilting people into proper behavior. If everyone who came was aware that it was a LNT event, then there would be pressure to behave appropriately. Queens hate to be called out.
            • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

              Thu, June 18, 2009 - 11:40 PM
              Hear, hear!

              Involvement good. One by one education of whomsoever you may come across while commiting trash comedia not efficient. Mass education more efficient.

              Sas
              • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

                Fri, June 19, 2009 - 1:29 PM
                i disagree. i vote with my feet.
                • Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

                  Mon, June 22, 2009 - 11:24 AM
                  I think the idea of making Pride a leave no trace event is admirable. I don't think it can happen this year. However, by getting involved this year and being able to speak with the authority of experience to the board after the event it would be easier to push for more active trash pickup as Cable suggested, and greater education of attendees about LNT principles as Sasquatch suggested. In addition, it might get the board thinking about the recycling and trash generated by the vendors. I think it would be possible to work in conjunction with the Green Zone folks at Pride on all of this.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

                    Mon, June 22, 2009 - 11:57 AM
                    I also think that trying to get the vendors to do things like not hand out huge volumes of little pieces of paper, is a good idea.

                    If we could get them all to make an effort to reduce how much trash they hand out to people, then that would have a nip it in the bud effect.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: pride project: Because i have PRIDE

                    Mon, June 22, 2009 - 12:00 PM
                    I didn't really have the goal of making Pride a LNT event, though I think it's a good one. I just wanted to do something useful about litter.

                    As to whether something can happen this year, I noted Brady's question on the yahoo list: "What can we do in a month?" I dunno.

                    Maybe - I'd like to think probably - some folks will come up with something useful to hand Pride on a platter. If so, I'll be glad to act as liaison to Pride. I will not spend significant time/energy on bright ideas that are not worked out to the last detail. (That is a burner weakness. Ideas are easy. Implementations are hard.)

                    Maybe some burners will offer to get parts of my equipment wish list (ops plan will be posted later today.) I hope a few offer SLOPs rides to and from the festival, so we don't have to deal with parking and designated drivers as well as for green reasons.

                    My ops plan suggests ways that burners who are simply attending the festival can help.

                    I trust in the creativity and good will of the burner community.
                    • Because i have PRIDE

                      Wed, June 24, 2009 - 8:36 AM
                      Funny. I'm used to being misunderstood and should be more careful about the way I communicate. But I forget.

                      "Voting with your feet" is a Vietnam War era description of the way hundred of thousands of Vietnamese left North Vietnam after the country was partitioned into two sections, the Communist North and the capitalist South Vietnam. It was (is) a way of saying that many people show their political values by their actions.

                      I was shocked to learn that at least one person thought it meant that I was threatening to leave the burner community because of lack of formal support from the LLC.

                      I was a burner long before there was Burning Man. Perhaps I'm atypical - maybe even aberrant - but I show my values by what I do, not just what I say.

                      I vote with my feet.
                      • Re: Because i have PRIDE

                        Wed, June 24, 2009 - 11:44 AM
                        "I was a burner long before there was Burning Man. Perhaps I'm atypical - maybe even aberrant - but I show my values by what I do, not just what I say."

                        We like to think of you as "us."

                        Sas
                        or Kaiser Sose : )
                        • Re: Because i have PRIDE

                          Wed, June 24, 2009 - 12:49 PM
                          I like the idea of ferrying people to the event to reduce parking problems.

                          We could use someones house close by, as a staging area for the efforts.

                          My place is pretty close, and big enough for people to gather, although there is not a great deal of parking available there either.